MIT's Dr. Stephanie Seneff on Glyphosate: "Either it Goes Away Or We Go Away" - Our Hair Color, Our Lives, and Beyond!

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Dr. Stephanie Seneff is becoming a big fish in a little pond of people who are wanting cutting-edge and truthful information with substantial enough research credentials supporting it to validate what other researchers are saying, in my opinion.  In this topic you'll be able to connect dots like your hair losing it's color to what's on your breakfast, lunch, or dinner plate.  

She has been verbalizing or writing about the 'dots' and 'connecting the dots', and helping the ripple turn into a wave of information that helps us understand the massive increases in the various environmental illnesses.  Autism. Alzheimers. Zzzz / insomnia, and everything in between A and Z.  And yes, hair color -- or lack thereof -- is something that comes up in the discussion at this wonderful One Radio Network interview from May of 2014.  See below for the link, the highlights from their website AND my transcribed version of the last 1/3 of the show for the details I think you'll want to be sure to read AND go listen to. 

 

From the Facebook page of an 'autism mom' who was 'getting into' Dr Seneff's work too:


Stephanie Seneff links glyphosate to depleting sulfur in mammals, causing GI issues; low sulfur (sulfate) levels = a welcome mat for pathogens!

What do kids with autism have? Dr. Rosemary Waring has proven that kids with autism have abnormal sulfur metabolism. Phenol sulfotransferase, which is deficient in kids with autism, is the enzyme involved for breaking down and clearing toxins from the body.

Glyphosate is one of the biggest assaults on our planet!

(Link to Wikipedia re: Rosemary Waring: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Waring

 

Here's an excerpt from a blog that went 'viral' in late 2014 on Facebook, where I noticed it got people reading about wheat MORE than ANYTHING I had seen before! I didn't think everything in the blog was correct, I thought it seemed rather skewed, but I remembered it on Thanksgiving when two of us with similar careing about food quality, who have had similar health issues, sought out pecan pie at an upscale eatery which is conscious about toxins in foods. As I'd not talked with the owner for a while, we got the update on her fall from health and recovery in the last year, and I brought up wheat.  There was only one other person at the bar, a man who didn't look like the usual patron for that kind of place, and I found it so interesting that he knew about the glyphosate and wheat harvest!  

 

"According to Dr. Stephanie Seneff of MIT who has studied the issue in depth and who I recently saw present on the subject at a nutritional Conference in Indianapolis, desiccating non-organic wheat crops with glyphosate just before harvest came into vogue late in the 1990’s with the result that most of the non-organic wheat in the United States is now contaminated with it.  Seneff explains that when you expose wheat to a toxic chemical like glyphosate, it actually releases more seeds resulting in a slightly greater yield:   “It ‘goes to seed’ as it dies. At its last gasp, it releases the seed” says Dr. Seneff.

According to the US Department of Agriculture, as of 2012, 99% of durum wheat, 97% of spring wheat, and 61% of winter wheat has been treated with herbicides. This is an increase from 88% for durum wheat, 91% for spring wheat and 47% for winter wheat since 1998."

Here's a link to a topic about autism and the diet that I recommend to people -- all people -- by Marty Ross, MD, and then went on to add a comment about Dr Seneff's findings about vaccine and autism, and the interplay of glyphosate with things that are in some vaccines.   www.lumigrate.com/forum/6-practical-diet-recommendations-marty-ross-md-whether-you-have-bug-borne-disease-or-know-it-o#comment-2650 .  
There is also the vaccine topic at Lumigrate, where I just added in the transcribed words of Dr Seneff up very near the top to help people right away see that it's not 'just' the vaccines, but that the hubbub about vaccines is valid, per her research (and many others, it's just that what Dr Seneff has connected as 'circumstantial evidence' is innovative and makes total sense and she has such a solid reputation and foundation underneath her in her lengthy career, I feel it's best to front-load my topics with her research findings for our YOUsers): www.lumigrate.com/forum/vaccinations-overall-where-do-you-stand-american-or-otherwise

 

In order to understand what Dr Seneff presents, and which I've transcribed at another topic about the MMR vaccine adverse events before and after 2002, this is valuable information about the trends with herbicides in US agricultural practice.  Before 2002, when she crunched the data, the events were related to joints and after the events were reflecting that things were affecting the brain and not just the joints.  Significant circumstantial evidence that is gathered by this brainy woman thankfully allowed to do this research at MIT, she says, because Monsanto doesn't have any funding connections there as it would an ag school.  Her backgound is in computer science, and her research has included artificial intelligence and a lot of very interesting things.  Sometimes people try to 'ding' her for the type of research she has a background in, and I think it's innovative, appropriate and clearly yielding results! Results which I think are worthy of study.  

I'm editing in something else on April 25, 2015 because I heard another interview with her that occurred after I'd created this topic, and I thought it was the best interview she's given in terms of explaining her history.  That may be the way this particular interviewer worked --- perhaps it was their first time talking -- or perhaps she's getting a routine down for what she says in interviews so that those unfamiliar with her and her work 'get the story' about how she got into 'this stuff'.  I find it fascinating --- it began with heart disease being diagnosed and treated rather emergently with her husband and her seeing flaws in the logic, so to speak.

She then gives a very good overview of the interplaying factors of her research and the way she basically started with one thing and found things that she could figure out but then other things baffled her so -- she kept researching.  And she's still researching. Again, this might be a good hour for starting with if someone's new to this information and wanting the big picture of her work. She's just been going along and into how it all relates to autism, kidney, liver, diabetes --- the massive health crisis we have in so many categories and 'labeled illnesses'.  

I can't wait to see if she weaves the ever-important cyanobacteria into her education to the public, as I heard she has had her interests picqued about cyanobacteria. Here's the link: optimumwellnessandrehab.com/podcast-2/drstephanieseneff/

Today, the reality is that a lot of people are empowered by the Internet -- smart people who are good researchers and who don't have the 'credentials' that come with college degrees and funding at major universities.  For many years, people have been trying different strategies to solve symptoms of medical conditions. They'll tell others, others try it and so on, and eventually a doctor or researcher (or both in one person) will learn of it and perhaps try it on themselves, then on others they trust to do it safely, and then they start offering it their following as patients or learners.  I can forsee that what Dr. Seneff shares in her presentations and publications is going to greatly further our overall wellness.  I hope it is going to help people see the importance of not supporting the use of this chemical.  Every bite, sip and money spent is either condoning the GMO and glyphosate companies or not. 

Dr. Seneff's background is with engineering and computer science in terms of her degrees, and previous research included aritifical intelligence and studying how marine mammals communicate.  She has been absorbed by glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide 'Roundup', which is past it's patent time so is now also made by other companies in other countries too, since hearing someone talk about it years back -- you'll hear them discuss that on this interview, below.  She's very cheery and bubbly and friendly when she speaks, and I find it very easy to learn from her.  So I hope YOU do as well.  

I am a generalist, I can't keep all this information of details in my head as to WHY and WHAT, I get the overview and am able to communicate it more simplistically.  But if I create the topics on Lumigrate they can be directed to, then they have that as a resource. And anyone else finding the information, naturally, you have the benefit of it as well.  

I've found some people and maybe people overall in the US have the 'complacent' attitude that Dr Seneff mentions in this interview.  There are a lot of reasons I have found this interview so interesting and important enough for starting a new topic and headlining it with her name and really focus upon GMO and glyphosate so our YOUsers can look this over, read it, print it, mark it up and make notes OR listen to the interview which I suggest people certainly do (and find much more at One Radio Network by Dr Seneff.  Their search bar is funny, you have to use her first and last names together and then you'll get the list of all the interviews she's done there.  Here's the link for this one: 

://oneradionetwork.com/health/dr-stephanie-seneff-glyphosate-either-goes-away-go-away-may-20-2014/

Glyphosate (the active chemical in brand name RoundUp, made by Monsanto) -- either it goes or we go away. That's the nutshell statement from Dr. Stephanie Seneff.  I wanted to provide for Lumigrate YOUsers the overview of the interview she gave with Patrick at OneRadioNetwork in 2014, linked to above ^.  It's about 3/4 of the way through the hour when she makes that statement, and what she relates and they discuss up to that point lays the foundation for understanding why she makes that BIG of a statement! 

WHY, and TAKING THE TIME TO LEARN WHY, is CRITICAL for YOU to be able to WANT to MAKE THE EFFORT and GO TO THE EXPENSE involved in GETTING GMOs and products that will have glyphosate in them OUT OF YOUR WORLD .. your home, your body, your 'you name it'.  

In advising people about YOU taking REAL CONTROL of your health care, it is critical that YOU are picking WHO you're going to have around you for advise (whether in-person or through learning 'virtually', from published / printed information, etc.).  YOU, the consumer, (consumer = 1. you buy it and/or 2. you put it in your body) have to put in the time and energy (and money in some cases) to study enough about what affects health to want to put in the additional effort and resources (time, energy, money) to 'take action', or be proactive some would call it.  It is lifestyle changes that have to occur when you shift.  

DO YOU VALUE YOURSELF -- your body, mind, spirit WHOLE self (or that of your children, spouse, friends, etc. -- others you influence by what you purchase, serve, etc) to do that? THAT IS THE QUESTION. Do you value yourself enough to stay in relationships where you're being 'used and abused' (such as going to a store that sells products that are known to harm people, work environments, home environments, personal relationships including biological or legal family relationships)?  Or are your dependencies and possible addictions to things running YOU and your 'show'?  Stop and think about THAT -- take as long as you need, this topic isn't going anywhere.  Maybe your time will be better spent reading on AFTER you've processed this paragraph. 

Someone might say 'it's too expensive to eat all organic' without looking at what things they can do without and then have the money to eat things that are going to be less damaging to their well-being.  What if you changed all around the way you ate and it ended up not costing any more? Yes, that would take a lot of thinking and learning and do-ing on your part.  Decide if it's important enough.  After all, how clearer can it be said? Either glyphosate goes away or we go away.  So how do YOU make it go away? Quit supporting anyone who uses it, directly and indirctly. 

It's up to YOU to decide if that's what you're going to do or if you're going to keep doing what you're doing.  And remember that a strategy I've promoted since year #2 at Lumigrate brought to us about reducing the risk of cancer was to simply do one thing different every time you go to a store to purchase something and then keep that ball going (continue purchasing that improved safety of product) and the next time do another.  If you go 2x a week to the store, that's 100 things in a year you'll have revamped in terms of the safety of what is in the product for your home, body, etc. 

Impulsively at the store shelves is a problem for people with impulse control issues.  People can 'know better' and not 'do better' and so then you have to look at WHY that is! What I see with my background assessing cognitive and motor processing and function in a long career in occupational therapy, which is what my university degree is in, has shown me that sometimes the brains just look at the prices and that is how the person choses the item to purchase.  Or their brain has an association with something they see that it 'wants', and they don't have the "wherewithall" to overcome it.  

You need to have a fairly good 'state of mind' to go into the stores and do a good job shopping.  Just as with having someone HELP with LEARNING if your brain is impaired for learning and getting things turned around, I suggest people get help with shopping if they're not 'doing' what they 'know' or have learned and 'want to be doing' with their purchases. Just don't take someone who's going to not work in your favor. 

Today, it's no longer as it was decades ago when our minds were more solid (and our behaviors) and we just needed to not be hungry or with low blood sugar to make better choices on our purchases.  I enjoy going to a regular grocery store and looking at the things I used to purchase on a regular basis -- and think about how I was unwittingly contributing to my health falling further from 'wellness'.  

Often, the purchasing decision is made because people have a number in their head of what they want to be spending on groceries and etc. and they're not prioritizing it has the #1 thing that is affecting their well-being.  They'll say 'it's good for us to relax and recreate' and put money into skiing or vacations or buying goods and services they don't REALLY need, and keep their food costs low because they're eating things that the 'monkeys' have made be cheap through all the 'monkeybusiness' deals that are in existence between our governments and our corporations.  Please do your homework and also just STOP and THINK about what I'm saying here.  Then proceed. 

I now go in and look for the labels that indicate something is "organic".  "Non-GMO".  KISS -- Keep it Super Simple!  It's made easier by stores that have expectations about the supplier sources, and I'm fortunate that Natural Grocers by Vitamin Cottage started in Colorado the same year my parents bought their property not far from where Margaret was starting Vitamin Cottage. Unfortunately, my family didn't ever know about them until, I believe, I moved to Denver in 1996 to do my OT internship and found one near the post office where I got my mail.  

They have been expanding into many states in recent years and even bought up another chain that took them into more states to the east from Colorado.  One still has to know a lot to shop there and make the BEST choices, but you can go in there blindly and come out with a much better chance of not further damaging your health and promoting your well-being with whatever you come out with in terms of what items you'd normally purchase. 

The overview of the show from the OneRadioNetwork website:


 

 

Show Highlights:

-Our gut bacteria and the role it plays in our health; gut issues are epidemic

-Glyphosate has been patented as an antibiotic; what does this mean for the gut?

-It has been shown that Lactobacillus is good for the brain, fighting anxiety an depression

-Good and bad bacteria: What does this mean? Stephanie tells us

-It’s very clear that glyphosate causes fungal infections; what does this mean for our bees, bats and other animals? How does fungus affects humans

-The role of candida in the body

-A fascinating story about the flu which is essentially a healing method; the flu is stealing the sulfates from the muscles and distributing it to the blood

-Why sulfate is important in the body

-The best thing for the pineal gland is sunlight.

-A great way to get magnesium sulfate is to take an epsom salt bath

-God Bless Putin; Russia wants no part of GMOs

-Dr. Seneff tells us why the U.S. will be the last country to reject GMOs

-Either it goes away or we go away

-Glyphosate chelates manganese and it’s really causing problems with fertility

-There’s only a small group of people doing this kind of research; the 2 hour talk that changed Dr. Seneff”s life

-The reason animal food is good for you

-Sulfur deficiency is huge in modern diseases

-How do glyphosates tie into gluten intolerance?

-Going GMO free is not enough, you have to go organic

-and so much more!!!!

 

 


We spend a lot less money on food than other countries, and we've totally embraced these 

shikimate pathway is what gets disrupted in the plants that make them die.  Since our cells, their argument is, don't have that enzyme/pathway, but in fact all our gut bacteria have the pathway.  There are 10x the    They're incredibly important to us.  We're  90%, by cell count, microbes -- they're little.  The gut bacteria play an enormous part in our health.  The gut is so disruptive these days, all the diagnostic words are mentioned.  The antibiotics are looked at too.  Glyphosate is actually an antibiotic per the patent.  All these breakouts of drug-resistant bacteria, are overgrowing because the good bacteria are being harmed by the glyphosate.  The good bacteria will make the brain happy -- it's amazing because they can provide lactobacillus probiotics to people and see results.  

She has a unique theory about bacteria.  Good means bacteria stays in the gut. Bad means they'll venture out to other areas, the pathogens.  The blood --- sepsis. They're coming in to help your body, they carry on their backs both nutrients and genes that are able to do something that you can't do because your genes don't have the information to do that, but this is a raw theory of mine  now.   Glycated proteins that are glummed up with sugar.  Glyoxylate is a whopper of a glycating agent and it t urns out fungus can sort of kills your cells but it takes the glyoxilate and turns it into sugar which you can then burn.  Fungus is killing all kinds of species and stressing them out, dying out in record numbers in the US, both plant and animal species.  I know the glyphosate is causing the fungal infections but why is where I'm stuck.  

It's similar to candida, Patrick notes.  Getting rid of a toxic poison, because your body can't get rid of things, so these little species have so many resources to throw at a problem to get around a problem becasue they have a pathway you don't or somehow can deal with a pathogen you can't. ... They do cause disease, we have to suffer a bit with them.  

With the flu you get achey muscles.  The muscle cells end up stealing sulfate from the muscles and shipping it / delivering it out to the blood, which will maintain health blood circulation. Which is more important than having healthy muscles.  So all the illnesses have some role to play in 'redistributing wealth' in a way.  Aeromatic amino acids are very important precurors to neurotransmitters and molecules / hormones in the body that regulate neurons.  It turns out they have to do with sulfate transport.  It's very important and tricky to transport.  Glyphosate also messes up both of the classes of sulfate transport --- cholesterol, Vitamin D, DHEA, etc.  

The capillaries will have a slick lining with enough sulfate. If you don't have that then the red blood cells get stuck in the capillaries. Transporting sulfur becomes a big issue, which is why we have the sterols and the others.  And glyphosate messes this up.  

It changes the character of the molecule, their behavior.  It doesn't cause the gelling of the blood.

Patrick says: It sounds like glyphosates in teh GMO foods are literally killing people.  

Gut bacteria getting messed up

 

Sleep disorder is a major problem, melatonin

So I've looked a lot at the pineal gland

Autism, Alzheimers and other neurological disorders likely as well.

A really important thing about sleep is it's a time when all the broken  molecules get cleaned up.  All the cells are busy dumping their glycated proteins. It turns out they need sulfate to do that.  The melatonin, once it delivers the sulfate, is a terrific antioxidant so at night it really helps keep the brain working well.  The amyloid beta that's  part of Alzheimers is an example she gives.

Take extra sunlight in the bright light and open your eyes and don't wear sunglasses is what you can do to make your pineal gland happy.  We have a theory about this, and believe it's as imporant as what happens with plants.  They can use sunlight as the catalyst as the energy source ... animals have found a way to use sulfate in the skin.  Enos molecule is part of the family of enzymes called cytochrome P50 enzymes (??) ...  you need the sunlight to produce the enzyme as well.  So you get a triple whammy with these kids.  A paper on CSF in brains of people with autism showed                becasue the          was not delivering it.  

So you have these two systems in the body for it and both rely on sunlight.  

It makes the sulfate by day and then delivers it by night.   

 

And some of what is said starting and 40 minute, for those wanting to read along, or skim over and take a look before knowing if it's worth the going to listen: 

 

40 minutes in:  Someone named Rob calls in with a Mercola dot com article about the US going to ban raw meat sales and mentions that 'with Mercola you just don't know', which is unfortunately the case with so many of the websites, Natural News and Mike Adams went the same way.  They started out with what appeared to be earnest, unencumbered information and then either my abilities to sniff out 'B.S.' got more refined OR they became B.S. -- or both, perhaps.

Later (42:35) they get an email that Patrick reads that says that the meat story was a hoax -- they'd said it was from April 1, 2014.  AAAHaaa, April Fools.  Stephanie said it was a good thing she didn't get more into that one, and I have to think "What the heck, Mercola dot com, now you're doing jokes on April Fools Day and then people find that after the 1st of April and aren't 'thinking April Fools'.  

My 'ranking' of that website just fell a WHOLE lot!  (Not to mention that yesterday when preparing information about WATER I was looking to see what Mercola had and there's quite critical information online about how he changed his tune about distilled water being good to saying it's not at around the same time his products he sells at his site included filters. I 'get it', because how to keep Lumigrate 'honest' and make money to support me and my expenses / family (which includes the website / business) has always been a wresting match that I've dealt with in my own little way. 

41 minutes in: Patrick asks Dr Seneff if it's true that there's 'drift' from the spraying of products such as Roundup that contain glyphosate, so it gets on everything, everywhere and so it will be in products that are intended to be 'organic'.   She says she thinks that is somewhat true.  The US uses 25% of the world's glyphosate and it's a huge amount.  

The organic growers don't have to use organic manure from cows eating organic foods and waters so therefore the manure can have glyphosate in them.  Cows have an incredibly high tolerance for the chemical in the corn and soy they are fed, so you almost certainly get glyphosate in the manure. You have to hope that it's less, because they're not applying it to the crop, but you really can't avoid it -- in the US it's SO pervasive, she states. People are using it on their lawns...  

43:00 Raw milk, organic raw milk is such a great food for kids, especially if they're sick.  It's the best food next to breast milk, which can have a lot of toxins in it so organic raw cow milk is something she 'hates the way they're regulating'. Sometimes the breast milk has more toxins than what is allowed in Europe in water, she said. 

43:31 Patrick brings up that Russia just said no to US' GMOs and Stephanie lights up and says joyfully that she's really happy about Russia and China.  "Russia's like 'We don't need your GMOs, thank you very much' and so I really love Putin for that (and giggles), ya know?

And China's heating up too -- China's starting to wake up and realize there's something I just found from China that was talking about -- they've done a tremendous switch over the last ten years from growing their own soy. They eat a huge amount of soy there, and they were importing it from the West (GMO soy), and they're finding that everybody's getting sick. This article talked about 20-fold increase in Parkinson's disease, a 100-fold increase in autism in the last 20 years and 5-fold increase in fertility problems since 1972.  They had the same old thing happening there as is happening here (with health) and they're identifying the GMO soy as a potential candidate to explain it, so.... "

44:30 Patrick asks if China didn't just do something with the US and corn and she said "Yes, that's right, they turned back our corn .. they're wisening up.  I think they're going to be less 'vested' (interests) -- we've got Monsanto right here in the middle of our country, in Missouri, that's the headquarters.  So the US is really deeply, deeply entrenched in the Monsanto view of the world, so we're probably going to be the last country to finally recognize (officially) that this stuff is destroying our health.  So this doesn't bode well for our citizenry.  If you look at how autism is growing in this country, I can predict it is going to be half the kids born in 2025 will have autism.  That's not going to be a viable situation. I mean, I can't imagine what it will do to the school system and the burden on the families, I mean it's just mind boggling to me.  And we just seem to be complacent about it, which is just really surprising to me, you know?"  

45:23  They talk about the many people and entities not wanting to believe the evidence (the FDA, etc. "The idea that it's not safe is just such a huge problem and Monsanto is trying so hard to convince them it is ...."). Then go into New Hampshire and Vermont that were getting into the GMO issue.  California and Washington state tried SO HARD but there was so much lobby, she said.  "It's coming...." This is where she says 'either it goes away or we go away', after Patrick says 'what would  happen if this were to go away, could that happen' (essentially, I'm paraphrasing).  

She then brings up the reproduction rate, and once we get under 2.0 it's game over, we'll just shrink down to zero over time, AND why that would be is........ (47:30)

She says that she and Anthony have a new paper looking at manganese.  Glyconate chelates maganese. When you look at all the things that use manganese then you realize how this fits very well. 

The enzymes that use manganese are not working properly, and that's causing problems -- manganese is critical to reproduction because it's needed in building the flagella on the sperm that gives them mobility.

If they don't have enough manganese it affects the flagella and that affects mobility.  If sperm cannot move properly, that's a big problem and affects fertility. They swim ....The tail needs manganese to be produced. Glyphosate chelates the manganese and keeps it unavailable to the cells.

And manganese is working great for other things too, the mitochondria in the brain in autism and Alzheimers and all these brain diseases .... are the mitochondria under stress  -- they're the the organelles in the cells that make energy for the cells, so they are really important. And they are getting destroyed by oxidative damage. Well, it turns out that manganese is critically needed for the superoxide dismutase that protects them from oxidative damage, so that's another example for the manganese. 

And a third one is glutamate, and ammonia, which are found in high levels in the brain in association with a bunch of neurological diseases like autism and Alzheimers. And those guys, there is a manganese-dependent enzyme that converts glutamate to glutamine, and consumes ammonia, so if that enzyme isn't working then you get glutamate and ammonia built up in the brain and that's what you see.

So it's like it all makes sense. It's like it all makes sense in respect to manganese deficiency and then we can explain how glyphosate would cause manganese to be deficient because of it's chelation effects. 

49:30 - question in email from a woman wanting more information on what Dr Seneff said about anxiety. 

Lactobacillus really are critically dependent .. they use manganese as an oxidative defense, moreso than almost anything else. And so when manganese is deficient because it is  locked up  with glyphosate, then they get sick. Manganese is what actually disrupts this enzyme that messes up the shikimate pathway, and the lactobacillus also depend on the shikimate to produce those aromatic amino acids .  If you don't have your lactobacillus working, then you're going to have depletion in these things that are products that they produce.  And those depletions are going to cause disruptions of your brain. And so it's really that simple.  

So the glyphosate is killing off the lactobacillus and without the lactobacillus you get the anxiety because of all the fallout of all the things that the lactobacillus would do.

Another thing they do is protect you by keeping out these 'pathogens'.  They provide, in a sense, antibiotics that can kill the pathogens. So again, if they're not working, the pathogens are going to grow.  

51:00 Patrick asks -- if we could figure out how to eat really good, whole food, will the body figure this all out and self correct.  She says she is hopeful that the glyphosate won't stick around a long time in the body / bodies of people, which is something she's not sure of.   The problem is how to get rid of the glyoxylate damage that will accumulate, so that's the problem, how to get rid of the glyoxylate.  

Again, you have to bring in the fugus to consume the glyoxylate. But the glyphosate, if you stop taking/eating non-organic food, then I think the glyphosate will wash out of your system, and then your metals will start working properly again. And your liver will start working again, your liver gets messed up with all the cytokine 50/50 enzymes that can't produce bile acids.  And bile acids are really important for lots of things -- that's another thing, they're just discovering what bile acids do. And the liver can't detoxify other toxic chemicals in the environment because it needs these sipe enzymes to do that and everything else becomes more toxic if glyphosate is messing up the  sipe  enzymes.

So it's really quite a complex cascade tumbling down that happens in the context of this glyphosate exposure. 

52:22 Patrick notes that this takes it to a whole other level with 'messing with Mother Nature'. Everything's so intricately connected one thing happens then another.... 'then your brain goes wonky.. holy cow'.. She said 'I know ... you can't imagine that a little molecule like glyphosate can cause so much trouble, ya know?"  

Patrick then says "I guess it doesn't even matter if 'they know', whoever 'they' are, what it is doing with all this" -- it just matters that it is occurring.  And she responds that quite compelling evidence -- it's indirect evidence because people are not getting the funding to do the research they should be doing.  So you hang a lot on one thing. Example: you get a paper on goldfish and the goldfish liver and the enzymes that get suppressed by glyphosate, so you make a giant leap and say it's probably happening in the human liver as well.  You only have this one paper on goldfish to go on but that's all there is, so THEY can say you've only got that one paper so forget it .... One is a whole lot better than zero, ya know?! If that's all you've got, that's what you use. 

53:30 Patrick asks if there are many people around the world doing this kind of research. She answers "No, there are few ... it's a very small, really dedicated group. (and you hear a slight sigh from her at this point...) of people who have become aware and Don Huber .. we need to mention Don Huber because he's who turned me onto this whole thing, he's amazing .. he's in his 70s ....  Patrick interjects that they've had him on the show several times.  She says 'Yeah... he's wonderful and he gave a two hour talk and that's what changed my life because after that I just spent all my time working on glyphosate because it's so important."

54:00 they take another call ... Patrick is the name of the caller and his question is 'what comes first, the sulfer or the sulfate'?

She said that's a hard question to answer.  They're different forms of sulfur, sulfur oxydized versus reduced.  Sulfate is of course carrying oxygen and that's really imporant, she thinks .. it's sulfur plus four oxygens and it has a negative 2 charge, and so it's an oxydized form of sulfur. And so there are various ways the body can make sulfate from sulfur-containing molecules, such as cyctine or homocyctine .. or, or.... what's it called.... (she says her brain is blanking).. TAURINE ... I talked about taurine before and anyway, um, phyosulfate (sp?), that's the one I was thinking about ...   ... Patrick says he's taken that, sodium psylosulfate (sp?)  .. yeah, she says, that's the one we think is the precursor to sulfate synthesis in response to sunlight.  

Sulfate with an s  instead of an 'o' so it's incomplete and the second one is an s and should be an 'o', and you can take that sulfer off and turn it into a sulfate by oxydizing it, so you get two sulfates out of one biosulfate, I believe, through the sunlight can cause the biosulfate to turn into sulfate.  

Hydrogen sulfate gas is another one that is really interesting because it's poisonous but it's also essential in the blood. It has VERY interesting signaling molecules in the blood.  So, sulfur comes in all kinds of different shapes and forms, you can get sulfur from plants in these molecules that are quite interesting --- like in broccholi and garlic -- they have sulfur-containing, interesting molecules that have to be .. the sulfur has to be taken out and oxydized before it can work, but the body can do that.  

And then the sulfur - containing amino acids, cyctine and methionine and   homocystine .. MORE of them are available from meat sources / animal source than from plant sources so that's the reason that animal foods are good for you because it give you a better supply of these essential sulur-containing amino acids. And then you also have glutathione which is an incredibly important sulfur-containing molecule that the cells use for anti-oxidant defenses."

Patrick the caller says "it was a difficult question, I'm sorry" and she LAUGHS and says 'that was a difficult answer' as Patrick the interviewer says 'that's okay' as she goes on to say 'I've been studying all the different forms of sulfur.'  Patrick the caller says the reason he asked it, and said Patrick's listeners were helping to demonstrate this because when we put sulfer back in the diet of people they stop being sick. "Yes" Dr Seneff says.  And, he goes on, they spoke about this four years ago, about the pesticides and fertilizers that are robbing us of our minerals .. and, well .. THIS is the one they really robbed us of. 

"I think sulfur deficiency is huge in modern diseases", she says.  

Then he goes on to talk about her being at MIT so having her hair done, otherwise it wouldn't be white ... because if you put sulfur back in your diet, it would STOP being white.  

"I know, I know (as she laughs and volume goes up), you tell me that and I wonder if I've had sulfur deficiency for many years ... because I didn't 'wake up' to this until recently." Patrick (the interviewer) says 'Just dunk your head in the bathtub when you do your .... (epsom salt bath) " and the other Patrick interrupts and says 'Oh, stop it... " and they get his call off the line in order to wrap up the show and go on with his saying he didn't realize she had white hair and she's laughing and saying her hair will maybe turn back to having color again. 

How does the glyphosphates and the GMOs tie in with the whole 'gluten thing' we hear so much about, Patrick asks.  "Oh, yeah .. we did our first ... paper on gluten and then the second on gluten intolerance.  We really believe that the gluten intollerance that we're seeing today is epidemic of it, caused by a practice of spraying the wheat with glyphosate right before the harvest, and this is a relative new practice .. it's come up in the last few years. Three days before the harvest they spray the wheat with glyphosate essentially in order to kill it (the plant) -- it's not GMO wheat -- they're killing it with glyphosate in order to reduce the amount of residue that has to be cleared for the next year and also to get a head start on next year's weeds."

To clarify, this is NOT 'organic' wheat crop producers doing this, and then she goes over again how since the wheat is not GMO it is susceptible to the plant material being killed from the glyphosate -- that's the point, they want to kill it (the plant). They want to kill it and grab the harvest just before it (the wheat/seed/grain) die.  They've had a very short period of time between the spraying of the glyphosate and the harvesting, which means the glyphosate has gone into the seed (grain) and then gets into the wheat products and (that contributes to the gluten intolerance problem).  We have a whole paper on that and there's a LOT of evidence .. circumstantial evidence that links up glyphosate with the conditions that are associate with celiac disease." 

Patrick asks when they started this practice. She said they maybe figured it out 10 or 15 years ago but only sort of recently started to use it .. it's an idea someone had and it started gaining in popularity. So it's been REALLY gaining in popularity over the past few years because it looks like there's no downside (to the farmers/ producers) because they don't worry about glyphosate being poisonous because they don't think it is (to people). They look at it from the standpoint of making farming easier. 

So Patrick asks if you're even in a GMO labeling state if you're at risk for consuming a wheat product with this in it. So she then uses this to reinforce that 'you can't just go no-GMO, it's not enough, you have to go organic. She states she and her husband eat 100% organic. 

Patrick asks if there's any risk of cross contamination of grains and other vegetables with GMO and she said she'd not know.  He said we can put plastic over our gardens at home.  She laughed and said it's just really hard to find a place on Earth that is safe. He wraps up about the places around the world that are waking up and that the 'horse is out of the barn' now.  She's thinking so, she said.  He'd specifically said China, Russia, India, Sri Lanka and she'd said confirming she was aware of Sri Lanka but hadn't thought of that earlier in their discussion (above).  

"I have a lot of reason to hope ...  I may be in a bubble, but things look good to me, like the movement's in the right direction" ...  and they hopped off saying they'll do it again, they could probably do four hours on this. I hope my bringing the highlights of this ONE hour through my keyboard to your eyes to read over, study, re-read, contemplate and then ACT UPON is of value and benefits YOU. 


 

 

I've become a HUGE FAN of Dr Stephanie Seneff since learning of her in 2014.  My first exposure was with a video, and seeing that I've been 'growing my color out' for years now since becoming grey enough to do so, I thought, I'm always intrigued when I see someone who's not coloring their hair yet is in the public spotlight, as she is. It's a very controversial thing today, whether to let it go grey or keep coloring; it was the most popular topic at More Magazine in years past when I covered it on Lumigrate.  This interview ends with a conversation about her hair, which was initiated by a caller, who was a man.  

I found this interesting because in 2005 I had my photo taken when I got the 'gig' to provide the OT services in a large, allopathic medical building in Grand Junction, Colorado.  You live to get in front of the doctors for 10 minutes at their weekly staff meetings to talk about whatever it is that you can help their patients with that they're not aware of, or are not referring patients to.  Ten minutes, maybe once a year if you're lucky, you have to get your business boosted and so you need to make those minutes count.  In 2007 I was invited to talk with them about the fibromyalgia program that I'd collaborated about with the building's neuropsychologist.  YAY!

I was there on time, bells on my toes and all that --- and the first thing one of them (a male) said was 'your hair's different now than in your picture' and they started talking about where they or their spouses go to get their hair done.  SIGH.  There went 10% of my time, but we got to an even playing field of being PEOPLE who NOTICE what we SEE about other PEOPLE.  And then we went on. "And so it began", I should say.  

Within a year the building was seeming unfriendly about the weekly seminar series I was putting on for education for the providers if they came (none did) or the consumers in town (they did), which were at 4 pm or just after 6 pm (to catch the providers as they worked until 6 since the 4 pm meant not having revenue for two hours. Changing the time didn't change anything, the only providers who ever came were the ones who were speaking that week.  

And I was seeing that the next step for me was a website, and to get out of insurance-based 'mainstream' and I went to what I thought was 'outside the system' but it turned out the MD was not going to break that far away and didn't stick to what we'd all talked about with the new 'integrative' clinic, so by 2009 my offices were in a neighboring building and then across town in my home.  

And so it continues. I have continued to simplify my life, foregoing unnecessary expenses of time, energy and money and that has included coloring my hair. And many other things. My priority is keeping Lumigrate a 'clean' source of information for YOUsers, and I believe that the information Dr Seneff provides is just that! Clean. Unadulterated by funding strings.  

And so I hope YOU will take the time to get to know of her and of her research and consider investing some of your resources of time, energy (and no money involved directly) to get the information she and I are providing here.  Thanks to One Radio Network for the interview and please go to their site and look around.  They have products and you can donate to them to support their work.  I hope that I can help guide / drive people via links to their website as I think it's an incredibly interesting and quality website for 'radio' / audio learning, and they have articles too! 

It's hard to imagine today that a year ago I was unaware of Dr. Stephanie Seneff and the incredible work she has done through MIT as a researcher, today being at the rank of senior researcher. And as I usually do, I'm creating information with the people in mind who I've been interacting with in 1:1 conversations, in person or by phone, etc. in their process of going from where they were to where they are and will be going relative to their wellness journey (and that of their surrounding 'system' they are interconnected with in the home, etc.).  

In the past week I've been able to have a good smattering of a 20-something, a handfull of middle aged (50ish)(all women), and one 80-something (also a woman) helping me put things in perspective and see what the 'mindsets are' of people who I'd be recommending this topic to if able to be personally involved. I've also communicated with Dr Seneff, which was such an honor and pleasure. Perhaps I'll be able to get some feedback from her on this topic. If so, you can count on that I'll add it in, below.  

I have created many topics or comments that have included her information and you'll find them sprinkled around the forums at Lumigrate and with the Search bar can look for those if you're interested.  She's covering a LOT of ground related to biology and in this interview from May of 2014 at One Radio Network that I'm focusing on to start this topic, I enjoyed her bubbly interpretation of the intricacies of the biology that she's now into related to human health.  

Her background, if you look at her biography or vita, was working with how things communicate, and she's a computer scientist.  How things in the sea communicate was one thing I recall 'noticing' when looking into her background WHICH I suggest people do when they're studying a source.  However, that takes time and so I try to do that for YOUsers of Lumigrate in filtering who I link to and not.  My standards and 'filter' keep getting higher and finer as time goes on.  

Read on about Dr. Mercola and his website, below, things seemed to degenerate to a new level in recent years with his website. And so it goes. Nothing seems to stay the same, we have to keep 'fluid' and open minded and just keep our thinking caps on and our radars in the up position, so to speak, relative to WHAT SOURCES WE TURN TO for information.   

I recently was getting to work advising someone who, so far, appears to not "really 'get it' " how much they were at the top of my list of demographic to reach with my work: young people old enough to have the maturity to be realizing that the CHOICES THEY MAKE, and the choices their parents made, are at play TODAY impacting their day-to-day mental, physical, social, vocational and spiritual wellness levels .... and they have to WORK NOW on what they're putting in their bodies (and that includes topical toxins that get in through the skin outside and inside the body, the scalp, and also what they BREATHE in).

If they can get things turned around enough before it's time for them to reproduce, that's CRITICAL right now!  They increase their odds that the baby they help create, whether mother (XX chromasomes) or father (XY chromasomes), will be one of the 50% Dr Stephanie Seneff refers to in this interview WITHOUT autism in 2025 and not one one the other half that will have autism as part of their reality.  Yes, autism can be reversed but it's hard work.  Easier to get these young people before they reproduce, societally.  

And realistically they're less 'messed up' in some regards, than the people who raised them, and are more knowledgeable about how the world works in a lot of ways. They're more aware that you can't really believe what people tell you, they don't use mainstream media, but they effectively seem just as bewildered in how to find good information.  

I've seen them turn to Dr Google and go to the topmost thing that comes up and that's the only thing they look at when 'researching' something. I've seen people old enough to be their parents or grandparents do the same; and are they aware of 'disinformation sites', or how it works with websites and funding sources or other 'powers that be' effectively coercing what information is on the website?  

In some regards, some of the 80-somethings I've been talking with/working with individually seem to be closer to being on the right path in terms of being wary of the information, but it seems that when I look at a store like Natural Grocers and the shoppers, it's pretty across the board who's newly shopping there in terms of the generations.   

I've tried to focus my work with women and men of 'my generation', related to diet, and I've found that they're often just "too far gone".  The business advisors wanted to jump in immediately knowing that WOMEN are the driving force, that 'fibromyalgia' tended to be in middle aged women mostly, but I was seeing the trend rapidly shifting in 2007 even, of younger patients with CRPS/RSD or fibromyalgia diagnosed when they were in high school, leading to them being home schooled in some cases.  

The 21 year old males who were desiring to become real activists in the community in 2015 told me in 2014 that their biggest problem with making change in the world was their parents and their cohorts were not believing them (and thus supporting them, mentoring them, etc.) about what they were seeing as the way the world works -- they basically were 'awake' and their parents were not.  

Once the generations older than the young adults "get with the program" and start helping the movement, we'll have a powerful force that can create the change in the world that I think HAS to happen.  And I hear in this interview that Dr Seneff agrees.    

But in both generations, this is what I've seen in the last year in just two cases that stood out: They turn to Netflix for who to get their food information from relative to a documentary. So once again, follow the money, and who is behind the source that you spend your TIME and ENERGY (and money for the subscription) on.  This young adult maybe did the right thing for a 'next step' for them and used the subscription available to watch something about food rather than some other kind of show, and it was overall generally good information BUT when I looked at WHO was being INTERVIEWED, they were sources I'd not whole-heartedly trust. They're sources that I've heard or read are suspect, or I've observed on my own even, because I put so much time into my work about wellness for Lumigrate's YOUsers (and my own benefit too, naturally).  

Someone of my generation who still has children at home, one of which has significant issues which was the original reason for my getting involved, took forever (years, which has been very common in people with chronic pain and fatigue that I 'know' via Facebook, I noticed) to believe that foods were a factor and then the parents communally turned to Netflix instead of what I have at Lumigrate as suggestions of how to study and learn. They have not yet learned to respect how much skill there is in learning to pick out good health information sources and think they can DIY.  So they have to learn from their mistakes. And I've done the say, trust me. And I'm sure I'll always be getting it mostly right but sometimes not.  

So they, like the 20-something, watched a video about food/diet they picked out with who knows what kind of information guiding them, and then only watched that one thing, which somehow got to their emotions and then they acted upon that information.  Without even going to a Search engine and knowing how to search for the 'other side of the coin' information.

I thought of them when I listened to Dr Seneff's interview that I was taking the time to transcribe/overview write up here, because near the end she got into information about why animal sources of nutrients are more available and helpful to consume, in her opinion.  

And so I would hope that people who have children are going to do less watching of 'fun' movies and do more watching of, or listening to, videos with GOOD sources of information.  People who don't have a 'horse in the race', so to speak, who are really telling the facts and not twisting them for whatEVER reasons.  

I check in with people and get their updates and in their case said 'that's not what I'd have suggested and I don't think that's correct information for your situation' but I can only lead them to the water trough, I cannot make them drink.  May you have found the trough and had a good drink! 


 

Here are some more details of what has fueled this debate, this is from the Healthy Home Economist's blog, which is linked to, above, from within the farming women's blog. Sarah, the HHE, attended a presentation given by Dr Seneff, which they both have referred to.  And what went viral in late 2014 on Facebook and perhaps lead to the man I spoke with on Thanksgiving making it 100% at the bar area of an upscale restaurant able to hold a conversation about what's in wheat that's causing the health issues all the women were talking about. 

 

"According to Dr. Stephanie Seneff of MIT who has studied the issue in depth and who I recently saw present on the subject at a nutritional Conference in Indianapolis, desiccating non-organic wheat crops with glyphosate just before harvest came into vogue late in the 1990’s with the result that most of the non-organic wheat in the United States is now contaminated with it.  Seneff explains that when you expose wheat to a toxic chemical like glyphosate, it actually releases more seeds resulting in a slightly greater yield:   “It ‘goes to seed’ as it dies. At its last gasp, it releases the seed” says Dr. Seneff.

According to the US Department of Agriculture, as of 2012, 99% of durum wheat, 97% of spring wheat, and 61% of winter wheat has been treated with herbicides. This is an increase from 88% for durum wheat, 91% for spring wheat and 47% for winter wheat since 1998."

 

 

 

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F. William Engdahl: "Seeds of Destruction- Genetic Manipulation"

At the following link you'll find more than the snippet I've provided below, which is another one from OneRadioNetwork and an insightful 2010 interview conducted with the usual skill by Patrick Timoni -- allowing me to more fully appreciate in 2015 how much knowledge overall Patrick which combined with his skill as an interviewer to have created a successful website that I'm enjoying learning from AND pleased to have found as a source to link YOUsers of Lumigrate into.  

 oneradionetwork.com/geo-politics/from-the-archives-seeds-of-destruction-the-corp-take-over-of-food/


 

F.William Engdahl

“The Rockerfeller Family are the big players here…..”

Author of Seeds of Destruction:The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation

This skillfully researched book focuses on how a small socio-political American elite seeks to establish its control over the very basis of human survival, the provision of our daily bread. Control the food and you control the people. This is no ordinary book about the perils of GMO. Engdahl takes the reader inside the corridors of power, into the backrooms of the science labs, behind closed doors in the corporate boardrooms.

The author reveals a World of profit-driven political intrigue, government corruption and coercion, where genetic manipulation and the patenting of life forms are used to gain worldwide control over food production. The book is an eye-opener, a must-read for all those committed to the causes of social justice and World peace.

Born in Minneapolis Engdahl is the son of F. William Engdahl, Sr., and Ruth Aalund (b. Rishoff). Engdahl grew up in Texas, and after a degree in engineering and jurisprudence from Princeton University in 1966 (BA) [1] ,and graduate study in comparative economics at the University of Stockholm from 1969 to 1970, he worked as an economist and free-lance journalist in New York and in Europe. Engdahl began writing about oil politics with the first oil shock in the early 1970s.  

AT ONE RADIO NETWORK THEY PROVIDE A LINK TO Mr. Engdahl's website.... I went and checked it and him out.  What an interesting resource he and his 'fund of work' is! 


 

 

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Others Covering Dr Seneff's Research and Outreach. Fair? Snipes?

In November I'd posted a link on Facebook that got MORE attention about GMOs than any one single thing I'd ever seen, and it was about wheat production using Roundup before the harvest to kill the plant material so it's easier and more cost effective for the farmer.  Problem being, the glyphosate (the active chemical in Roundup) was so newly on the grains that it would end up in the consumable wheat product, too, meaning it's contributing to killing people if you look at the disorders that are coming from the long-term effects of these environmental toxins.  

One of the local people had seen it and got the scoop from a family member who farms and that was good to get their input as the story was perhaps a bit biased to be more 'eye poppoing' against GMO.  No further interactions went on through the end of the year or all of January and then after Valentine's Day into my messages appeared a link from this same local man, nothing of any kind of words with it at all.  The link is below, it was to a blog that was done by family of farmers and I noticed the first thing in reading was they didn't say 'Dr Stephanie Seneff' nor refer to her high status at MIT.  So there's a red flag right there. And who knows, maybe they were in a hurry or have no 'social graces'.  I'm glad they sent the link so I could see what kind of unfair things are being seen.  

I've been preparing a lot of information at Lumigrate recently about Dr Seneff's work because I think she has a lot of credibility and is pulling things together in a way that is going to be of help right now to any YOUser of Lumigrate who is looking here.  One thing I was doing was typing up the words she spoke in an eight minute YouTube about vaccines and the interplay of factors that are contributing to the rising autism rate.  

I wasn't sure how to spell 'shikimate', a pathway she refers to, so I went to Google and found it among this link.  This seems  like a more fair assessment of her work and I wanted to provide it and the one I was handed by someone without any kind of personal message --- apparently they're not friendly with me and just wanting to send me anything they see that's anti Stephanie Seneff, or they're thinking it's an unfair barrage of information about wheat growers doing this farming practice which is apparently contributing to a lot of unwellness in children, adults and we can presume other animals and the overall environment and ecosystems.   

wyebrookfarm.com/an-interview-with-jeffery-smith-and-dr-stephanie-seneff-glyphosate/

This is the overview/ summary of the hour-long interview at Wyebrook Farm dot com: 


 

Glyphosate is an herbicide. It kills plants. It’s marketed as a weed killer, but it actually kills all plants. That’s why GMO plants have been so popular because they have been genetically engineered to withstand glyphosate. A farmer can plant a field of genetically engineered corn or soy and spray it with Roundup, killing off all the weeds that would suck soil nutrients away from the corn without harming the corn. Before Roundup, tilling was the most effective way to control weeds, but tilling isn’t great for topsoil. It destroys nutrients, is time consuming, and contributes to erosion. It’s easy to see why Roundup became so popular.

 

The way glyphosate works is that it interrupts the shikimate pathway, a metabolic function in plants that allows them to create essential amino acids. When this path is interrupted, the plants die. Human cells don’t have a shikimate pathway so scientists and researchers believed that exposure to glyphosate would be harmless.

The problem is that bacteria DO have a shikimate pathway and we have millions of good bacteria in our guts – our “gut flora.” These bacteria are essential to our health. Our gut isn’t just responsible for digestion, but also for our immune system. When glyphosate gets in our systems, it wrecks our gut and as a result our immune system.

The interview then goes on to cover an assortment of diseases that can potentially be linked to glyphosate exposure and gut problems. Autism. Alzheimer’s. Obesity. Low serotonin & tryptophan (depression, mental illnesses, and increased violence). Parkinson’s. Birth defects. Crohn’s & colitis. Cancer. Diabetes. Etc. Pick a disease and Dr. Seneff will like it to glyphosate. I won’t go into the specific details regarding each disease. If you are interested, watch the video.

It’s a lot to take in and the skeptic in me wants to say “Really? All that from this one chemical?” Then I remember dioxin (Agent Orange) and DDT. I got the impression that Dr. Seneff’s research is still in the very early stages. She often used phrases like “I believe,” “I suspect,” and “we’re working on” rather than more concrete statements like “I discovered,” “I proved” or “data showed.” Also, in the interest of full disclosure, Dr. Seneff’s degrees are in electrical engineering and computer science, not biology or public health.

Even so, her findings do make a lot of sense and in time evidence may surface to better support her theories. History is riddled with examples of supposedly-safe substances that later turned out to be devastating to human health, the environment, or both.

In the meantime, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence out there from people and families who converted from a conventional diet to an organic diet/lifestyle to minimize exposure to glyphosate. Even farmers who switch their animals to an organic diet notice behavioral differences. I noticed changes in my physical and mental health when I transitioned to a largely-organic diet. I’m not ready to whole-heartedly embrace her sweeping conclusions, but I’m also unwilling to write them off simply because her degree isn’t medically oriented.

One interesting point Dr. Seneff made was that the rate at which many of these diseases are growing – especially autism, which was practically unheard of fifty years ago – suggests that the problem is environmental. In fact, in the past 5 years, autism rates have increased from 1/150 to 1/50. In just 5 years. Most medical research these days focuses on genetics. They are looking for the devil within, but what if Dr. Seneff is right and the problem is external? If autism were genetic, it would take generations for the numbers to increase significantly. We should be looking for significant environmental alterations in the past 30-50 years. Glyphosate and GMOs fit the bill.

This should give everyone plenty to think about over the weekend.

 
 

 


^ NICE, eh?

Then to compare, if you wish to go and read the 'skewed one', in my opinion, I'll bring a little excerpt here so you can see the way they downplayed Dr Seneff's credentials. (Note, the gal, above, had not seemed to understand how Dr Seneff's credentials with her formal education and research background was suited for the research she's conducted, and this other blog seems to have the same lack of awareness about different types of researchers and what research is about, which I got some perpective on working as I did for Colorado State University, and going there, for a combined total of 18 years. 


Which “Studies” Say This is Bad?

The study that gets shared and starts misconceptions about glyphosate in farming stem from Stephanie Seneff, a very well known anti-GMO proponent, whom we’ve read about a lot in the last year. One of the reasons why the red flag goes up when Senneff’s name is behind research is that she’s a senior research scientist at the computer science and artificial intelligence lab at MIT with biophysics and electrical engineering degrees also from MIT. So why the research on pesticides from an electrical engineer/computer scientist? Truth be told, she and her colleague didn’t conduct any research at all. Bloggers like Sarah Pope from The Healthy Home Economist, have a big misunderstanding about wheat and glyphosate. Shestates on her blog after reading Seneff’s paper: “When you expose wheat to a toxic chemical like glyphosate, it actually releases more seeds resulting in a slightly greater yield.” This is completely false. The yield of the crop is already determined because the wheat has stopped growing—their job is done, the plant is dead. When the plant isn’t green anymore, that means photosynthesis cannot occur or transport nutrients. Spraying glyphosate won’t magically create more kernels of wheat that late in the game to create higher yields, however weeds are still growing which can take away from yields for next year’s crop.

 


If you go and read the rest of what she wrote, I think she did a very poor job of making her point against Dr Seneff,  stating she doesn't conduct research (if I read it correctly).  Also, they're critical of her not making a house call to see the farming practices personally, yet to turn the tables on it, did she go from her farm to MIT to see 'Seneff" (who could have been called Dr. Seneff, more appropriately, in her research setting?  

So YOUsers, please look critically at the information you're taking in and scrutinize and use your brain.  I just find so many people saying 'I don't know what to believe as there's something about anything possible on the Internet'.  Use your skills, and figure it out. This is a little example of two farming blogsites or websites and how different they can be.  One seems a little more biased than the other.  www.askthefarmers.com/wheat-farmers-response-to-toxic-wheat/

 


 
 
 

 

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Seeds of Deception - Jeff Smith a Resource via WantToKnow.info

Once again, I bring a NEW resource to YOU via Lumigrate's topics --- one that I've looked into and feel has top-knotch, honest, ethical leadership / controllers of content.  My priority is that YOU becoming as educated as you can be with the time, energy and money (ie "resources") that you have or opt to spend on learning about things affecting your wellness, or that of those around you under your influence, and this is the service that I provide via Lumigrate (or when I talk with people 'live') for no charge (there are charges for my individual work, but I do that as a Mardy Pop-Ins Services option and it's innovative in terms of costs per person or situation).  

When I think about it, that's how I got my start in 2007 in the large, allopathic, organized medicine building where I'd been providing occupational therapy services (always with people who had insurance as our rates were so high nobody privately paying who didn't have insurance could afford us).  The free 'fibromyalgia forum' which the members suggested it be called after I co-created the group at the request and inspiration of psychologist Chris Young, PhD, had a mix of 'comfortable' women with insurance, money in the bank, homes they owned and who had the funds and wherewithall to have paid for some or a lot of advisement out of 'the box' of insurance-based, organized medicine. And the great thing was that they would relate to others in the group who, say, were living on disability income, were unemployed or underemployed because of their health issues, etc., and then those people could get the information -- second hand.  So then we started inviting those providers who'd been helping people with fibromyalgia reverse the symptoms and not just prescribe medications or other BigMedical interventions to come and talk to the group.  FREE first-hand information! 

Then on the Internet it's a little different to find providers of information and learn who's behind their funding, what their reasons are for doing the work they're doing.  I had to build my skill at that, and some of the providers I'd had as experts on Lumigrate in the past wouldn't pass my 'screening' or 'filter' today.  However, their information they provided was valid, they simply didn't have the underlying 'reason' for doing the hard work they were lined out with what I've ended up gravitating to after transforming my own beliefs about how the world works in 2012-2014.  I feel very good about the sorting I've done in 2007-2012 but feel I offer a much different type of information today.  Want to Know dot info is a website within a palate of websites that is headed by a man named Fred Burks, who was a highly paid language interpreter for the US government. He was working for the US State Department without having done the hoops needed for a top secret security clearance.  He started one of his websites he related in an interview with Patrick Timpone at OneRadioNetwork (which is where I learned of him, and I saw that their words about him on the topic were 'glowing' and so I thought "I'm going to check him / this interview out").  Then the government was going to require signing a document saying nothing that was discussed at work would ever be related outside of work (basically)(as he put it, if someone told a joke you couldn't then tell someone else the joke at home, whatever).  He ended up quitting, I believe he said in 2004, and making his websites and nonprofit organization his work.  He stated he only makes $2,000 a month now but is happy -- he has everything the needs, he's reduced his bills and etc.  I explored some of the many websites, and since I was working on information about Dr Seneff and food currently I headed in that direction eventually and found this link which I wanted to provide here for YOUsers to consider going to in support of GMO / GM information.  

Dr Seneff has talked a lot about soy generally, and this article also talks about soy.  It also is focused on children and school nutrition, which I believe is critical for people to be knowing about.  I covered the Renegade Lunch Lady fundraiser when it came to Grand Junction, Colorado years back, in order to help raise awareness about nutrition in my live community, and there was a group working to raise funds to create a garden at Wingate Elementary School, which was in one of the more affluent parts of town.  

Ironically, the powers that be that fund things said they'd not support it because the people in the school area had more means to fund the garden project.  It was at a time of high unemployment, foreclosures, and the area of that school likely was affected much more than an area on the other side of town where people had long been on government programs for support.  So I had a booth at the event, it was sold out, they brought in the Renegade Lunch Lady from Boulder by Skype and it was a successful event from my standpoint.  These are each 'ripples' that turn into little waves and then the big wave that will have us, the consumers, saying 'no' to GMO and glyphosate.  The United States, per Dr Seneff, is so heavily influenced since Monsanto's in the United States, that we'll be the last to get with the program, overall.  And each person who is knowing WHY this is important AND changing how they consume (what they purchase, what they don't purchase, what they put in and on their bodies, etc.) is where the power is.  And Want to Know dot Info has that same premise in what I saw at the overall of their topics (and interrelated websites).  so here's the link to a topic about Jeff Smith and Seeds of Deception at Want to Know dot com: 

 

www.WantToKnow.info/050520schooldietchange

PART of what you'll find at this link, is offered below to show YOU why I say "I really suggest you take the TIME and use your energy to go to the Want to Know website resource and know of it as a tool for learning about a LOT of things, this is an example of how they present on the GM issue via Jeff Smith's perspective."  Keep in mind, I think that Dr Seneff's research, above, has MUCH to explain WHY you'd see the behaviors with children, rodents, and not other animals so much (cows), or other research which I've covered of hers from other interviews that are in the Lumigrate forums.  The gut, the bacteria, the shikimate pathway, etc., as stated or heard, above if you've taken the time to listen and/or read the information presented on this thread.  


Why Schools Should Remove GE-Tainted Foods from Their Cafeterias

Institute for Responsible Technology
Newsletter on GM Foods, Spilling the Beans
By Jeffrey M. Smith, author of Seeds of Deception

Before the Appleton Wisconsin high school replaced their cafeteria's processed foods with wholesome, nutritious food, the school was described as out-of-control. There were weapons violations, student disruptions, and a cop on duty full-time. After the change in school meals, the students were calm, focused, and orderly. There were no more weapons violations, and no suicides, expulsions, dropouts, or drug violations. The new diet and improved behavior has lasted for seven years, and now other schools are changing their meal programs with similar results.

Years ago, a science class at Appleton found support for their new diet by conducting a cruel and unusual experiment with three mice. They fed them the junk food that kids in other high schools eat everyday. The mice freaked out. Their behavior was totally different than the three mice in the neighboring cage. The neighboring mice had good karma; they were fed nutritious whole foods and behaved like mice. They slept during the day inside their cardboard tube, played with each other, and acted very mouse-like.

The junk food mice, on the other hand, destroyed their cardboard tube, were no longer nocturnal, stopped playing with each other, fought often, and two mice eventually killed the third and ate it. After the three month experiment, the students rehabilitated the two surviving junk food mice with a diet of whole foods. After about three weeks, the mice came around.

Sister Luigi Frigo repeats this experiment every year in her second grade class in Cudahy, Wisconsin, but mercifully, for only four days. Even on the first day of junk food, the mice's behavior "changes drastically." They become lazy, antisocial, and nervous. And it still takes the mice about two to three weeks on unprocessed foods to return to normal. One year, the second graders tried to do the experiment again a few months later with the same mice, but this time the animals refused to eat the junk food.

Across the ocean in Holland, a student fed one group of mice genetically modified (GM) corn and soy, and another group the non-GM variety. The GM mice stopped playing with each other and withdrew into their own parts of the cage. When the student tried to pick them up, unlike their well-behaved neighbors, the GM mice scampered around in apparent fear and tried to climb the walls. One mouse in the GM group was found dead at the end of the experiment.

It's interesting to note that the junk food fed to the mice in the Wisconsin experiments also contained genetically modified ingredients. And although the Appleton school lunch program did not specifically attempt to remove GM foods, it happened anyway. That's because GM foods such as soy and corn and their derivatives are largely found in processed foods. So when the school switched to unprocessed alternatives, almost all ingredients derived from GM crops were taken out automatically.

Does this mean that GM foods negatively affect the behavior of humans or animals? It would certainly be irresponsible to say so on the basis of a single student mice experiment and the results at Appleton. On the other hand, it is equally irresponsible to say that it doesn't.

We are just beginning to understand the influence of food on behavior. A study in Science in December 2002 concluded that "food molecules act like hormones, regulating body functioning and triggering cell division. The molecules can cause mental imbalances ranging from attention-deficit and hyperactivity disorder to serious mental illness." The problem is we do not know which food molecules have what effect.

The bigger problem is that the composition of GM foods can change radically without our knowledge. Genetically modified foods have genes inserted into their DNA. But genes are not Legos; they don't just snap into place. Gene insertion creates unpredicted, irreversible changes. In one study, for example, a gene chip monitored the DNA before and after a single foreign gene was inserted. As much as 5 percent of the DNA's genes changed the amount of protein they were producing. Not only is that huge in itself, but these changes can multiply through complex interactions down the line.

In spite of the potential for dramatic changes in the composition of GM foods, they are typically measured for only a small number of known nutrient levels. But even if we could identify all the changed compounds, at this point we wouldn¹t know which might be responsible for the antisocial nature of mice or humans. Likewise, we are only beginning to identify the medicinal compounds in food. We now know, for example, that the pigment in blueberries may revive the brain¹s neural communication system, and the antioxidant found in grape skins may fight cancer and reduce heart disease. But what about other valuable compounds we don¹t know about that might change or disappear in GM varieties?

Consider GM soy. In July 1999, years after it was on the market, independent researchers published a study showing that it contains 12-14 percent less cancer-fighting phytoestrogens. What else has changed that we don¹t know about? [Monsanto responded with its own study, which concluded that soy¹s phytoestrogen levels vary too much to even carry out a statistical analysis. They failed to disclose, however, that the laboratory that conducted Monsanto¹s experiment had been instructed to use an obsolete method to detect phytoestrogens results.]

In 1996, Monsanto published a paper in the Journal of Nutrition that concluded in the title, "The composition of glyphosate-tolerant soybean seeds is equivalent to that of conventional soybeans." The study only compared a small number of nutrients and a close look at their charts revealed significant differences in the fat, ash, and carbohydrate content. In addition, GM soy meal contained 27 percent more trypsin inhibitor, a well-known soy allergen. The study also used questionable methods. Nutrient comparisons are routinely conducted on plants grown in identical conditions so that variables such as weather and soil can be ruled out. Otherwise, differences in plant composition could be easily missed. In Monsanto's study, soybeans were planted in widely varying climates and geography.

Although one of their trials was a side-by-side comparison between GM and non-GM soy, for some reason the results were left out of the paper altogether. Years later, a medical writer found the missing data in the archives of the Journal of Nutrition and made them public. No wonder the scientists left them out. The GM soy showed significantly lower levels of protein, a fatty acid, and phenylalanine, an essential amino acid. Also, toasted GM soy meal contained nearly twice the amount of a lectin that may block the body's ability to assimilate other nutrients. Furthermore, the toasted GM soy contained as much as seven times the amount of trypsin inhibitor, indicating that the allergen may survive cooking more in the GM variety. (This might explain the 50 percent jump in soy allergies in the UK, just after GM soy was introduced.)

We don't know all the changes that occur with genetic engineering, but certainly GM crops are not the same. Ask the animals. Eyewitness reports from all over North America describe how several types of animals, when given a choice, avoided eating GM food. These included cows, pigs, elk, deer, raccoons, squirrels, rats, and mice. In fact, the Dutch student mentioned above first determined that his mice had a two-to-one preference for non-GM before forcing half of them to eat only the engineered variety.

Differences in GM food will likely have a much larger impact on children. They are three to four times more susceptible to allergies. Also, they convert more of the food into body-building material. Altered nutrients or added toxins can result in developmental problems. For this reason, animal nutrition studies are typically conducted on young, developing animals. After the feeding trial, organs are weighed and often studied under magnification. If scientists used mature animals instead of young ones, even severe nutritional problems might not be detected. The Monsanto study used mature animals instead of young ones.

They also diluted their GM soy with non-GM protein ten- or twelve-fold before feeding the animals. And they never weighed the organs or examined them under a microscope. The study, which is the only major animal feeding study on GM soy ever published, is dismissed by critics as rigged to avoid finding problems.

Unfortunately, there is a much bigger experiment going on one which we are all a part of. We're being fed GM foods daily, without knowing the impact of these foods on our health, our behavior, or our children. Thousands of schools around the world, particularly in Europe, have decided not to let their kids be used as guinea pigs. They have banned GM foods.

The impact of changes in the composition of GM foods is only one of several reasons why these foods may be dangerous. Other reasons may be far worse (see http://www.seedsofdeception.com).

With the epidemic of obesity and diabetes and with the results in Appleton, parents and schools are waking up to the critical role that diet plays. When making changes in what kids eat, removing GM foods should be a priority.


Live and learn. Learn and live better! ~ Mardy

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Re: MIT's Dr. Stephanie Seneff on Glyphosate: "Either it ...

How Dr Seneff handled a question on her Facebook, which I thought was worthy of sharing.  It was someone asking for further clarification and for more information to cite the concepts she was referring to. Naturally, we all can have hundreds of books on our shelves but we are going to have the key ones that we refer to for the key things if trying to tell others about whatever it is we're educating about. These are a few of her highlight resources:


I can email the documents to you if you send me email here: 
seneff@csail.mit.edu

Here are answers to your questions.

1. Glyphosate poisoning into cerebrospinal fluid:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21370950
Sato C, Kamijo Y, Yoshimura K, Ide T. Aseptic meningitis in association 
with glyphosate-surfactant herbicide poisoning. Clin Toxicol (Phila). 
2011 Feb;49(2):118-20. doi: 10.3109/15563650.2011.552065.

2. Stillborn piglets:
Monika Krüger, Wieland Schrödl, Ib Pedersen and Awad A Shehata. 
Detection of Glyphosate in Malformed Piglets. J Environ Anal Toxicol 
2014, 4:5

See:
http://www.gmoevidence.com/dr-kru%CC%88ger-glyphosate.../
And you can get the pdf of the article on the web.

3. Monsanto's own:
Second Peer review study of glyphosate
EPA report on glyphosate, 1991.
I have a copy - I think it's also on the web, but I've lost the link.

Stephanie

Stephanie Seneff
Senior Research Scientist
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

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Another Interview with Dr. Seneff, Autism-Focused

 The first interview Patrick did with Dr. Seneff was on September 19, 2013, and there was a lot of great information that she brings up. Really every interview she gives is something I will say 'it's worth the time to watch (or listen) and learn'.  She makes it enjoyable, is very easy to listen to.  She talks fairly clearly, but sometimes it's easiest to both be able to read over what she says after someone has transcribed the words, in combination. So I'll work on that and so if you see an overview of at least some of what was said, below, like I've done above, you'll know I got to it! 

oneradionetwork.com/environment/dr-stephanie-seneff-when-food-is-poison-gmos-and-glyphosate-slow-poison-over-time-september-19-2013/

 

 

THE MORNING SHOW
with
Patrick Timpone

Dr. Stephanie Seneff

When Food Is Poison

GMO’s and Glyphosate: Slow Poison Over Time

Stephanie Seneff, PhD, is a Senior Research Scientist at MIT’s Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. She has a bachelor’s degree from MIT in biology with a minor in food and nutrition, and her PhD from MIT is in computer science. Dr. Seneff is the first author of several recently published papers on theories proposing that dietary deficiencies in critical nutrients such as sulfur, taurine, zinc, cobalamin, choline, etc., as well as insufficient sun exposure, compounded by chronic exposure to multiple environmental toxins, can explain many modern diseases/conditions, such as autism, heart disease, obesity, asthma, gastrointestinal disorders, arthritis and Alzheimer’s disease. She has also spoken on these topics in several YouTube videos as well as in radio interviews and at conferences on nutrition and health both in the U.S. and internationally.

 

Show Highlights:

-How glyphosate on crops affects the health of those who eat them

-There are three main issues with GMOs

  1.  It chelates important nutrients causing deficiencies

  2. Amino acids become diminished

  3. Messes up the enzymes

-The importance of sulfur and why we have have become so deficient in it

-The relationship between sulfur and cholesterol….this is fascinating

-Autism rates are right in step with glyphosate usage

-Sulfate deficiency is seen in the brains of autistic children

-Glyphosate: Todays’ DDT. When will they come to their senses and outlaw it?

-Great foods we should all be eating

and so much more!!!

 

 TO READ AN OVERVIEW (partially transcribed):


 

As they settle in and get comfortable talking, Patrick is telling her about his last guest who was also from Boston and about neurology and the ketogenic diet, which she is 'into' she says. He's just had MCT oil poured into his coffee (or tea), they call it BulletProof coffee and you put fat in the coffee...... and jokes about 'us health people' doing these things. 

Then he starts with "Let's start with GMOs and glyphosate." and Dr Seneff: Most people don't know the word but they should, it's the active ingredient in the weed killer Roundup. It's extremely worrisome to her on the damaging effects on health.

We have a huge number of chemicals now, we're in love with chemicals and chemistry and throwing them into our environment with abandon, and glyphosate is probably the worst, she thinks. Probably the most important chemical today to be concerned about. 

Roundup and GMOs are very different but strongly connected. Corn, soy, canola oil, sugar beet,  -- they have GMO versions of all of these crops and they are about 90% of those crops.  GMO, next to BT corn where the pesticide is engineered into the corn which is also very scary .... but corn is also GMO engineered to be resistant to Roundup. As well as cottonseed and cotton clothing

So you can spray the Roundup on the crop and it won't kill these plants because a gene from a bacterium has been inserted which gives them protection against Roundup. So they get depletions in critical nutrients like sulphur and disruptions to the plant but it doesn't kill them.  Cobalamin that's from cobalt...

We need these things in small amounts but if we don't get them we're in trouble. 

Cobalt was one thing Patrick honed in on. B12 depends on cobalt to work at all. It needs cobalamin which comes from cobalt, and basically dementia results if there's a deficiency. Cobalt deficiency is a huge problem today.

The GM corn, which is really big, not only have they genetically inserted something into the corn so it grows bigger, better, faster, stronger, and they've made it so it's immune to the glyphosate.  So it ends up as three issues.  Monsanto assured the government that glyphosate is completely harmless, and as a result the amount is going up rapidly. We're doing a poor job of monitoring how much is getting in our food.  The GMO crop won't die from the application and then there's another thing.

They're spraying crops right before the harvest, too (actually non GMO/Roundup ready crops, she omits that detail but I've heard her present this information elsewhere) ... such as with wheat and barley (which are known to be hybridized but that is NOT genetic modification, these are different things), and this is all so not natural on these huge farms giving us these cheap foods.

Everything's chemicals, not just the things to kill the weeds and the bugs and the fungus, but the phosphate based fertilizers... it's like Similac versus breast milk, instead of using manure or something more natural. 

The folks that are eating all these GMOs.... they're going to get sick, she says. 

The food already is disrupted from the glyphosate, because you'll get it in the air, the water, the food. It chelates important minerals, so you become deficient in these important nutrients. 

the glyphosate is going to go into your system. It causes three types of problems. It chelates minerals, such as cobalt, molybdenum, iron ... you become deficient in these important nutrients. 

It disrupts the shikimate pathway and you become deficient in amino acids and it affects the making of your neurotransmitters in the brain. 

It messes up a certain type of enzymes, that do an amazing amount of things. So many of those things are disrupted today. Vitamin D deficiency, we know, which is from the liver.  Nobody has proven we have glyphosate in the liver, it would make sense and needs to be studied... but that's a thought. 

Also, bile acids which depend on these enzymes, so you can't digest fat maybe because of this. 

Blood stability -- clotting depends --- both ways, too much clotting and too little -- 

It disrupts the ability to make sulfate, and sulfate deficiency throughout the body leads to things like autism, diabetes, heart disease, kidney failure, liver problems. All these things are a result of sulfate deficiency. She refers to the paper she wrote with Anthony that people can look up on the web. 

Sulfate is so important to the body. If you don't have enough in the blood your blood will coagulate. For the brain it's critical for neurotransmission. The gut for absorption, you'll get leaky gut. The kidneys  .. the joints, you'll end up with arthritis....      ... heart disease is deficiency. All of these are tied to sulfate.  Not getting sulfate in the diet is one way this occurs, but messing up 

when you get exposure to sunlight on the skin, your body makes sulfate out of ......... 

it grabs oxygen, energy, and negative charge all at the same time all in the sulfate ion, then it hooks it up as cholesterol and ships it out as cholesterol sulfate ... 

which is why you end up with high cholesterol because you can't transport the cholesterol

The reason for high HDL is not getting enough sulfate to transport the cholesterol

They then take a break, boy we found a little jewel here, Patrick said. Jokes he's going to get some duct tape and wrap his head it's about to explode with what Dr Seneff just presented. 

 

Email from someone about DMSO -- how does phosphotetal choline fit in is the question. Complex, high level question. 

That's a lot, she said.  MSM on the skin looks like it works and is getting positive results from those who are trying it. Magnesium sulfate baths, epsom salt, in a hot bath -- the heat is useful, that's a great way to bypass the gut. There's a real blockage, the sulfates have to get from the gut to the liver, that's the real problem. These pathogenic bacteria that the body is having to fight are actually providing a product that can get the sulfate from the gut to the liver but .... ..... but when that drops off you can end up with liver damage, 

the normal methods are not working. 

So I didn't really answer his question, but I'm tryign to figure that one out and the other thing I will say

is ther are many nutrients that are known to be healthy/ like resveratrol, curcumin which is in curry powder -- healthy antioxidants --- chocolates, and polythenols, flavinoids, the bright colors of the vegetables ... all of these things have the benefit that they can transport sulfur ... ALL of them.  It's a blind spot in the biochemistry research, really. Getting sulfate from point A to point B.  Vitamin D sulfate, Vitamin C sulfate, cholesterol sulfate --- all of them can be sulfated and are sulfated in transport in the body. 

Another question: 

They have sulfoxide (SO) which is halfway there, and it's surrounded by methyl groups, it's an interesting molecule. . Frustratingly, I've not been able to find the chemistry to connect the dots in the literature.  It must be able to be sulfated .... if someone knows, please tell me, Dr Seneff requests. It must be able to be sulfated, she surmises.

Patrick: He says he feels the effects of the sulphur product that he started taking three weeks ago, the one that they sell on OneRadioNetwork..... 

....

There is sulphur in garlic, onions and cruciferous vegetables and that's called  sulfane sulphur and that can be turned into sulphur in the blood cells.    

Patrick: Did the chemicals used in the 40s and 50s mess things up?

She thinks so, DDT was very damaging. Glyphosate is today's DDT, it's amazing history is repeating itself.  People put it on their lawn and kids play in it and they don't know the danger. So people need to go organic. We can fight this by refusing to buy the foods. 

Her husband has type 2 diabetes and other health problems (heart disease) and he's doing so much better now that six years ago because of this healthy living, it's amazing he's getting younger instead of older.  He eats a high fat diet, moving towards ketogenic. He eats a lot of antioxidant foods, sulfur foods, and he gets out in the sunshine, exercises.  

Statins is another topic she is into and very much against.  Just like Roundup, we're goign to realize statin drugs are a huge disaster. 

Patrick: You are well connected at MIT with 'the boy's' how are you getting by with this?

She said she's fairly well protected, and Monsanto has gone after the paper she and Anthony wrote on Roundup .... 

It's looking like you have to grow your own garden to know what you're eating. Buying organics at least raises your likelihood. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll feel better, and even boost your mood. 

What about using inorganic salt to act as a sulfur donor, someone asks, and she thinks that might be good, she lists several things such as chondroitin sulfate and people are taking that help them and it might be the sulfate making their symptoms better. 

You have to have oxidation in order to have your metabolism work, just like you have fire, you don't want it to get out of control.  If you have enough sulfate 

She thinks all these people

that's another thing that becomes deficient 

cholesterol deficiency causes heart disease, she thinks, not excess. She chuckles about her husband and his conventional doctor who doesn't agree with them about what he's doing with his diet and addressing heart disease. 

Eating fat will not make you fat, eating fat will help you lose weight --- people are starting to learn it. You have to undo so much misinformation, she says.  She liked butter so much she figured it must be good for you and chuckles.  

Bone broth and Westin A Price foundation people is brought up.  Her husband gets bones in Chinatown and makes soup on the weekend and they have it every night, it's very good for you.  It's the gelatanous material that is good for you that you'll see when you put it in the refrigerator.  

One final thing before they go, Patrick asks, 

you get really paranoid after a while, she said. Eggs and chicken, you can study even pets and there's a lot of things going on with them.  People have less restrictions on animal foods so they probably are having more exposures. On that happy note ...... they sign off and talk about what she's continuing to read. She's collaborating with a lot of people writing papers. She can spend most of her time writing and reading. Synthesizing the story as a direct result of environmental toxins like glyphosate and aluminum.  

Sulphur cycle ... sulphur goes from  

so basically we are like plants, we hold 

Sulfate is a way to hold / store sulphur, all of them are getting stored in sulfate. Sulfate is so amazing, and you can dig into the literature and you'll see what I mean if anyone wants to do that. 

There are some epsom salts that are good and some that aren't, he asks. She said she'd not done the proper research. She thinks sulphur hot springs are good, but she also said what a mix of stuff would be in the water. 

Nurturing 

They talk about the perfect blend of the frequencies to make the sulfate and full spectrum light. She prefers to get vitamin D from 

the skin makes sulfate, then vitamin D sulfate and cholesterol sulfate upon exposure to sulfate, and she thinks it's more important than the vitamin D.  Sulfate makes cholesterol water soluble. The cholesterol sulfate can deliver both cholesterol and sulfate to the tissues, both of which are in a bad deficiency mode in most people today.  Cholesterol is a precursor to all the hormones, including adrenals, so they'll get stressed and they need the sulfate too. 

They talk about having Dr Seneff back soon. "She's a good one, great find" (as he was talking at the top of the time about his producer (and love) Sharon who had found out about Dr. Seneff.  

After years of being on ascorbic acid, he got off of it because it's from corn. She said if something --

If you do a study for three months, you won't see anything, and cobalamin, the liver can store it for a year. That's how Monsanto gets away with it. You'll maybe just get fat, and you can connect obesity to glyphosate. You'll see a corner at 1975, all of the sudden there's a change, and that's when glyphosate was introduced into the food system. And I recommend you search Nancy Swanson on the web, she has a bunch of plots that show the glyphosate on corn and soy over time, and plot that about increasing rate of different things, for instance autism, and you get a perfect correlation. 

She relates her history of studying autism. Even over six years --- 1 in 300 then, 1 in 50 now, if we stay the course we're on it will be 1 in 2 by 2025 she predicts.  In her paper

autism is from sulfate deficiency in the brain. The brain modifies itself.  Methylation which happens 

hypomethylation occurs in autism

methianine, which is known to be disrupted

methianine has to be turned into

So if you have glyphosate in your blood, that's going to disrupt the cells when you get sun exposure

let's just work on the short distance connections, it's too hard to make the long distance connections in the neurons in the brain ... eyes, ears, to the rest of the body, so that's what happens

It was only a year ago that she suddenly woke up and realized it had to be glyphosate. Many autistic kids have trouble with the gut, stomach, etc. She knew you could see the overgrowth of pathogenic forms of bacteria, and not enough of the good bacteria.  The gut is very closly connected with teh brain which influences brain development as well. So I knew that and I knew about the sulfate defiiency. Rosemary Raring has been talking about sulfate deficiency and autism forever, since the 1990s.  

Going into September last year, I heard a 2 hour talk by Don Huber, a hero, who has been campaigning that glyphosate is far more dangerous that we're hearing.  He gave me exactly what I was missing in what I was researching. Then when you look at the other research, there's a perfect match. You never see correlation coefficients that are that good. 

She had a minor in nutrition, major in biology for her bachelors, he reminds people.  So the GAPS peoople get down adn work on the gut but they're not getting to the cause necessarily, but they at least are realizing the gut is tied in. But you need to do it with an organic diet, she said. And then eliminate the breads, because of the way they kill the crops now, we're getting a lot mroe exposure in wheat and causing the gluten intollerance we're seeing now. They were researchign that in the late 1990s but Monsanto has been encouraging people to do this.  They can get a head start on next year's wheat, because the weed poisoning is already done .... 

Delicia asks a question about organic sulfur or MSM is good, but only works at the intracellular level. She wonders if Dr S can comment. 

They've been using this to treat autism, but she'd unable to be specific because she's not figure out the exact chemistry yet. 

Water has to be properly buffered with the proper ions. Biochemists are not always aware of the literature. Sulfates are what makes the water work the way they should work.  If you get gelatin and you add water and those proteins make the water to a gel. This is what happens in the body.  Sulfate will make things like gelatin, which is great, it helps to keep things out.   

Things that have a huge regulatory capacity are able to gel the water around a cell.  99% of the cells of our body are water. We need liquid in the blood, though so that gets tricky.  

You need to have the sulfates attached to the cells all over your body.  How do you get the 

how do I get it from point A to point b. IF you get glyphosate in the blood, it will coagulate your blood because you can't ship sulfate. That's why autistic kids have low sulfate. You get these contaminants in the blood then it's a much more difficult task to get things from point a to b. 

 

 

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